I’m even thinking about doing some singing. “I’ve always had that mentality of trying to constantly make music that’s super-unique, but as I get older I feel less pressured to do that and I’m starting to get more interested in focusing on songwriting. Once you have a reputation for being somewhat innovative do you then feel pressured to live up to it? For me, the most important thing in music is to try to move the culture forward and try something new, and that’s probably my favourite thing about being a producer.” There’s so much music that sounds the same and I often think where the fun in that is. “My favourite music does that so I’m always trying to innovate or do something that sounds fresh. Did you set out to push the boundaries of how the genre is interpreted? In your approach to bass music you’ve often been regarded as a visionary. Not being a narrative-based singer/songwriter where everything is out there in the open, it’s good to add moments that make the music sound more alive.” There’s also a moment on the song Get You that’s a recording of my friends and me in a car and I think it’s nice to incorporate these human experiences into the music. “A lot of my music can be quite cold and abrasive at times, but incorporating these Foley found sounds not only created a world but gave warmth to these super-clean and aggressive sounds. The most important thing in music is to try to move the culture forward and try something new Australia has insane wildlife – you’ll just be hanging out at home and suddenly hear this ‘what the fuck’ sound, which is typically a bird that’s flown in from Peru to mate for two weeks, so I tried to capture those moments. “I did a lot of field recordings around the property whenever there was a storm. You mention being surrounded by wildlife and the title track appears to feature some of those sounds. Sometimes stopping makes you more productive.” You’re essentially surrounded by a team of people that make money off you, so everyone’s encouraging you to work and you want to do that too, but sometimes you need to stop and think, ‘What do I need?’. “It’s easy to get swept up in stuff when you have a cool job like this, but for me, and probably a lot of other producers, there’s a constant anxiety about becoming irrelevant. Now, I’m finally saying no to a bunch of stuff and prioritising my mental health by doing month-long tours rather than three-month tours. “Because I didn’t know how long this career was going to last or whether I’d be a flash in the pan, I wanted to take every opportunity that I could and would just say yes to everything. Has the experience made you think differently about your work/life balance, particularly in terms of touring? That’s why I called the album Palaces, because this space felt like my palace – it gave me room to just stop and think and that’s when the ideas started to flow.” I also live in the countryside, so there’s a lot of amazing wildlife here. “Having a nice routine, being able to go surfing or waking up and going down to the local coffee shop and feeling a sense of community was a complete change of lifestyle from what I was used to.
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